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Something tells me that normal round-town type driving, commuting, etc the additional cost over a non-hybrid (and increased complexity, weight, etc) doesn't really make a difference and the standard turbo-4 is more than adequate. Where it likely will make a difference is doing truck stuff...

I'm with the OP. I like the TH's bronze oxide quite a bit but Terra is a stunningly beautiful color. Both TH or Pro would suit my needs but I'm personally leaning to the TH because of the 6ft bed and the moon roof. I plan on using my bed as a bivouac when camping/overlanding until I can afford...

It isn't about bragging- When I'm merging onto the highway under a heavy load I want as much power as I possibly can afford. I'm not disagreeing with you on the lowered capacity, but something to keep in mind: the add-ons (bumpers, skids, rock rails) of the Trailhunter specifically are already...

Toyota of Hawaii is/was a separate entity that predates Toyota of North America. If you search around you can find all sorts of forum entries about Toyota Hawaii and Toyota North America not interacting properly with VINs, parts orders, and so on. Toyota Hawaii also deals directly with...

I think that's a fundamental flaw on many new vehicles. I use the native XM app on the Ford all the time driving but CarPlay and Apple Maps for nav because I'm all in on the Apple EcoSystem. I could use the XM streaming app on CarPlay but then I'm eating up my bandwidth and slowing everything...

I beg to differ. The point of the video, its length, content, and dragging out of the most crucial bit of info there is only to increase the monetizing of the video on YouTube. Otherwise 30 seconds could have covered this.

A dealer a friend referred me to in PA has my name down for a 6' bed TH. A week ago I was informed their allocation is supposedly angling for June, and they expect deliveries by August but they made it very clear absolutely nothing is concrete at this point- it could be earlier or later...

Much as I loathe nanny state interference in the auto industry (and elsewhere), if there's one company that does hybrids well it is Toyota. It's been almost 30 years since their first hybrids debuted and over time they've diversified the lineup to cover most angles, the trucks being the last to...

I had to do a double take and look this one up- the V6T F150 Raptor gets 12/18 and the V8 gets 10/15 from C&D's tests and EPA is 16/15/18 Combined/City/Highway. The Ranger Raptor gets 16/18 on their tests and 17/16/18 on the EPA test. Now, a regular Ranger will hit the 22/20-21/24-25 but that's...

Good points but the secret sauce that nobody has figured out is high MPG **and** power. You get one or the other but never both. And-- There's only so much you can do with the three box design far as aero goes, hence the godawful ugly air dam on the lower spec gasser Tacomas. 25MPG is pretty...

QFT.

Interesting. Surprised the JTM did as well as it did, it has all the aerodynamic qualities of a brick wall, just like the Wrangler. Rented a 2021 Mojave that had the full kit last year in Cali. RSI Smart Cap, awning, iKamper hard shell tent, full 7gal road shower, fridge, full bed slide etc. We...

@North all good points. in the overall the trucks are still pretty capable. Wish the seats were better… But the level of moaning is bordering on absurd. We all waited and anticipated and hoped it would be the perfect, ultimate factory overlanding rig because we all figured Toyota would listen...

Chances are the 4R is just a cosmetic only preproduction version, like a concept for the auto show circuit that can be driven but isn't quite ready for prime time

In another thread someone remarked (paraphrase) that the Trailhunter is already coming with upgraded bumpers and armor, things that are already taken into account in the payload rating. I think it's a good point that bears repeating. Still is lower and I'd have hoped for a larger gas tank, too...

MVP right here for finding the important stats. And you're right. I was hoping in the 1500-1700lb range. Figure a Smart Cap and RTT is going to eat up around 300l-350lbs of that. Add a 50L fridge freezer and you're now pushing over 400lbs before you've accounted for gear, food, water, you, the...

I dunno, I think that might be less blowback on price and more an issue with the rigidity of the allocation order system. They can spec the basics then PIO these other options to keep the factory humming along with spec builds to fill lots. My bigger gripe is if I'm spending money on a brand...

Aesthetics aside, the Ranger does have a lot going for it in lower spec trims comparatively. The Tacos have never had the best seats or driving position, and the back seats on the quad cabs are a joke. Toyota may very well have missed the ball on that end but the legions of fans won't care...

That's the angle I'm thinking. Factory inverter > battery > 12v fridge, and expansion for various USB powered doodads like aux lights and battery chargers. Any aux lights in the bed/cap, backup, ditch, etc would run off the AGM.

Great point. I would likely be replacing the stock with an AGM anyway. I think I'd need to do some serious digging before I make any moves. I really don't want to invest in a management system and a house battery if I can avoid it. This truck has to be able to handle camping/overlanding duty...