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The drive strategy is likely way different between the grand highlander and Tacoma. I think a better comparison is the Tundra where you get an additional 2MPG city and nothing on the highway.

I'm going to start looking at Tundras I think in the spring. They're starting to sell for under MSRP in places so if you were wanting a higher trim Tacoma that Limited Tundra is going to be pretty appealing in my opinion.

Hybrids typically don't impact hwy MPG. If that system is tuned like a Tundra, you'll see the city MPG increase by 1-2 MPG.

I get his frustration, Toyota has known what the costs for those trims for months. There's no way they would have even shown a truck they didn't know costs for. They're just stringing us along.

Judging by the Tundra MPG numbers between the Hybrid and gas powertrains the hwy MPG won't change but you might see a couple more City MPG.

Those numbers are pretty disappointing. I'm assuming that truck weights a lot less than a Tundra but it gets basically the same MPG. I was really thinking we'd see the highway mpg get up to 25ish.

They're listed in the accessories pricing sheet so I'm going to assume they'll be a dealer installed option.

2023 to 2024 Tundras had a $3k-$5k price increase. If the Tacoma is less than that you can knock me over with a feather especially with the hybrid drivetrain that's a $3k premium over gas on almost every other vehicle that has both options.

If that's the case I'm just buying a Tundra.

That's a relief, that seems like it would have been a pretty dumb move on Toyotas part not to allow for the front seats to recline because everybody likes a little different driving position.

That's not how I took it coming from the video from TRD Jon. He specifically shows the recline adjustment in the seat switches being a "dummy" stock and non functional. I hope I'm wrong and there's some other non powered lever.

That video might have scratched the Pro off of my list. Those seats take up way too much rear seat leg room to start with but that's the first I've seen that you can't adjust the recline on your seat with those stupid isodynamic seats.

Here's my worry as somebody who's designed suspension seats in off road vehicles. It's really hard to get two separate suspensions to work together. My employer offers cab suspensions and active seat suspensions but you can't get them together because they constantly work against each other.

Just using my wife's rav4 for reference it's a 10 year/150k mile warranty and they're NiMh not lithium so the replacement cost is about $3500. The Tundra uses the same battery chemistry as the Rav4 so I would expect that the new Tacoma will too but I haven't actually seen what it is anywhere.

You can definitely see the driver side which looks terrible is pushed a few inches further back than the passenger side. It doesn't look as terrifying as the initial pictures led on.

So here's my educated guess. Used to be a cab engineer with Deere so it's not exactly the same as an automotive job but pretty close. The pre-production interior tooling generally isn't textured, they do that to check fits on plastic parts with non hardened mold tools. Assuming the parts all fit...

I don't like that color at all but I'm really glad that they're showing the Pro trim interior in something other than that god awful red.

If that hybrid gets 25ish mpg in the TH and Pro trims that'd be amazing I think. I would expect that they could get 3-4mpg better than the Tundra though because of the difference in mass of the vehicles.

That's the warranty on my wife's Rav4 hybrid. Honestly even if you have to replace a battery they're not the lithium ion batteries normally in a Toyota hybrid they're the cheaper NiMH batteries. I'm not sure if I've seen it mentioned anywhere for sure from Toyota what the battery chemistry is...

So here's my educated guess on this as a design engineer who used to have design control over seats in Tractors. Toyota is a pretty smart company, normally, and I'd bet a steak dinner they have a requirement document for the cabin that covers things like rear seat leg room. My guess based on...