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Do you have ENE (Engine Noise Enhancement) and or ANC (Active Noise Canceling) turned on or off?
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Unless you do it yourself, or watch a YouTube, you won't know what you can modify.
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My last dealer didn't charge anything to change that stuff on my Tundra, but it would not surprise me at all if some do. I knew someone whose dealer would not turn off the seatbelt chime because they said it would make them liable if they were injured in a crash. So I love the Carista because I don't need anyone's permission to modify my own truck.
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Carista let me play with all these a lot:
Basicly no reason to turn off ANC with a stock/jbl stereo, cabin gets sligly louder without it.
ENE is preference. loved it when I first got the truck, after driving it for almost a year now I went back and fourth over that time. I found the "threshhold" of where it kicked in and it bugged me so I mostly left it off.
However recently did the axle dump which deletes a resonator and adds some more sound to the truck and makes it sound better plus the OTT stage 1 tune, tunred ENE back on for shits and giggles and oh man between the tune and the exhaust it lines up perefectly and sounds really good!! So ive been really enjoying that recently.
Basicly no reason to turn off ANC with a stock/jbl stereo, cabin gets sligly louder without it.
ENE is preference. loved it when I first got the truck, after driving it for almost a year now I went back and fourth over that time. I found the "threshhold" of where it kicked in and it bugged me so I mostly left it off.
However recently did the axle dump which deletes a resonator and adds some more sound to the truck and makes it sound better plus the OTT stage 1 tune, tunred ENE back on for shits and giggles and oh man between the tune and the exhaust it lines up perefectly and sounds really good!! So ive been really enjoying that recently.
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I turned engine sounds off, and played with ANC and it seems like it only works with engine sound on, doesn’t seem like there’s a lick of difference without
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Some reason for the old 1960's "Thrush" mufflers .... Gearheads like it !!
My dealer (Cedar Park Toyota in TX) would not give me the time of day when I requested them to change some of these settings. They were clueless. The service writer sent me to their "AOA department" which sent out a young guy, probably in training to be a salesman, whose job is to explain to clueless customers any new 'features' that are confusing or frustrating them. Speaking as a clueless old Boomer, I'm sure this department gets a lot of work every day, so good on them for providing the service. In any case, after I explained that I wanted them to increase the turn signal volume and a few other things that are supposedly possible for the dealer but not the customer, Young AOA department guy realized that he couldn't help me: he only helps people with adjusting things that are explained in the owners manual and/or the app, but nothing mechanical or electronic that would require a technician. He sent me back to the service department, who unhelpfully told me that for anything beyond the oil change/wheel rotation I was there for, I would need to make an appointment and leave the truck for at least 24 hours.
I'm sure you guys are correct: while the tech was waiting for the oil to drain and while he was already plugged into the OBD to make sure everything else was OK, he could have made the few adjustments I wanted. If he was aware of them. If the service writer had had enough knowledge and desire to help me. But alas. So I will probably soon buy my own Carista or similar.
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@Texas Bob Even by modern service department standards your dealer is pathetic. Toyota has had features that could be customised by their techstream system for a very long time now. 14 years ago they used it to change some settings on my 2011 Tundra, and the system wasn't new then.
They need to connect it to do any diagnostics anyway, so they either didn't want to bother helping you or they are beyond clueless. They obviously didn't check your truck for any codes. or they would have already been using it. Doing it takes only a few minutes so they were just screwing with you about the 24 hours. Almost every day a dealer amazes me with their sleaziness or laziness or both.
If they can't handle that I wouldn't trust them to do anything and you might want to check to see if the F'd up your oil change.
They need to connect it to do any diagnostics anyway, so they either didn't want to bother helping you or they are beyond clueless. They obviously didn't check your truck for any codes. or they would have already been using it. Doing it takes only a few minutes so they were just screwing with you about the 24 hours. Almost every day a dealer amazes me with their sleaziness or laziness or both.
If they can't handle that I wouldn't trust them to do anything and you might want to check to see if the F'd up your oil change.
Funny you should mention that: they only put in 5 quarts of oil. I checked it when I got home because I have the same attitude as you do. The level was just above the bottom line, so I added another pint, approx. It's still below the upper line so I'll add a little more. BTW the service writer was proud to tell me that they service 200-300 Toyotas per day. They have about 5 lines to queue up for service check-in. It's a massive dealership with fancy lounge areas, a coffee (for $) and gift shop, comfy couches, play area for kids... I wish they cared more about the actual quality happening out in the shop.
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Hello Mr. Taco and thanks for the advice
On this matter, I am ignorant.
I do like, and benefit from, engine noise; Like another person here says, the machine talks to you and you should listen.
But, these days with everything digital, I would not know what to do if I heard a change.
I will order this Carista OBD reader and its app, but before I do:
I was told that the Trailhunter had special noise-absorbing glass. On long drives, I like to immerse myself in my music, and my TH was great, and the engine and snorkel did not interfere with my listening.
I was not aware of these controllers, but over the past week, I have noticed that I hear the engine more and more.
If I select the less noise option, will that go away?
Sorry to be such a pest.
All the best
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@Cordoc You are not being a pest - this stuff is pretty complex and it can be confusing. Let me add what I know about it.
There are three things going on here. The top Tacoma trims have acoustic glass, which prevents unwanted sounds from getting into the cabin. There is nothing that you can do to change that, it is what it is, and I think it is a good thing.
The two things that your dealer or a Carista can change are Engine Noise Enhancement (ENE) and Active Noise Cancellation (ANC). They serve different purposes and they can be controlled independently. Both systems are turned on by default from the factory, so if you hear the sound changing it is probably not either of them.
ENE is something a lot of car makers are doing today. Smaller engines with fewer cylinders just don't sound as good as the old V8 and V6 engines did. So the truck makes fake engine sound and plays it through the truck's speakers, even when the audio is turned off. In a Tundra it makes the V6 sound more like the old V8s and in the Tacoma it makes the I4 sound more like a V6. It only makes it slightly louder, but it sounds better, at least to me. Some people don't like it and just turn it off, some of us like it and leave it on. Some people hate ENE because it is not real engine noise and they don't like fake stuff. Even some electric cars now can make engine noise if that is your thing.
ANC is a system where inverse sounds are played through the speakers to cancel out unwanted exterior noise, such as road and wind noise. It is the same principle that is used in noise cancelling headphones. Just like the acoustic glass it makes the interior quieter and a more pleasant environment. I can see no purpose to turning that off unless you like outside noise intruding, but Toyota leaves that choice up to you.
So for your Trailhunter to be its most quiet self you should probably leave ANC on. If you like hearing what your engine is doing then you should leave ENE on as well. If you have a Carista you can try turning them off one by one and seeing what you prefer. I played around with them and ended up leaving them both on and I think my truck is great on long drives, both in how quiet it is and how well it handles for an off road worthy vehicle.
I hope that helps.
There are three things going on here. The top Tacoma trims have acoustic glass, which prevents unwanted sounds from getting into the cabin. There is nothing that you can do to change that, it is what it is, and I think it is a good thing.
The two things that your dealer or a Carista can change are Engine Noise Enhancement (ENE) and Active Noise Cancellation (ANC). They serve different purposes and they can be controlled independently. Both systems are turned on by default from the factory, so if you hear the sound changing it is probably not either of them.
ENE is something a lot of car makers are doing today. Smaller engines with fewer cylinders just don't sound as good as the old V8 and V6 engines did. So the truck makes fake engine sound and plays it through the truck's speakers, even when the audio is turned off. In a Tundra it makes the V6 sound more like the old V8s and in the Tacoma it makes the I4 sound more like a V6. It only makes it slightly louder, but it sounds better, at least to me. Some people don't like it and just turn it off, some of us like it and leave it on. Some people hate ENE because it is not real engine noise and they don't like fake stuff. Even some electric cars now can make engine noise if that is your thing.
ANC is a system where inverse sounds are played through the speakers to cancel out unwanted exterior noise, such as road and wind noise. It is the same principle that is used in noise cancelling headphones. Just like the acoustic glass it makes the interior quieter and a more pleasant environment. I can see no purpose to turning that off unless you like outside noise intruding, but Toyota leaves that choice up to you.
So for your Trailhunter to be its most quiet self you should probably leave ANC on. If you like hearing what your engine is doing then you should leave ENE on as well. If you have a Carista you can try turning them off one by one and seeing what you prefer. I played around with them and ended up leaving them both on and I think my truck is great on long drives, both in how quiet it is and how well it handles for an off road worthy vehicle.
I hope that helps.
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