Heritage Grill Camera Swap - Observations

[Gurvy522]

I'm looking at the bracket Rave is sending you and I can tell you, it's not your camera, it's the bracket. Something is funky at Rave. I designed my brackets and made them publicly available before Rave released theirs, and when designing mine, realized something quickly when taking initial measurements.

Do you see how there are two clearance holes for the screws to mount the camera to the bracket?

Well, one hole is "centered" and the other hole is aligned with the top edge, in relation to the bottom and top of the cutout for the camera.

That is what controls the orientation - on my bracket, you don't need the notches in the other corners, the holes control the orientation.

My "type 1" bracket, retaining the upright orientation from other trims.

My "type 2" bracket, using the upside-down orientation from the TH/TRD Pro.

Compare the holes on my CAD models to your bracket.

Also attached a picture of the actual "type 1" bracket I've sold probably 20 people on this forum. No one has yet to tell me that it mounted their camera in the wrong orientation. I think I only had one other member request that I send them a "type 2" bracket as they didn't mind the ECU reconfiguration.

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[emerica243]

I'm looking at the bracket Rave is sending you and I can tell you, it's not your camera, it's the bracket. Something is funky at Rave. I designed my brackets and made them publicly available before Rave released theirs, and when designing mine, realized something quickly when taking initial measurements.

Do you see how there are two clearance holes for the screws to mount the camera to the bracket?

Well, one hole is "centered" and the other hole is aligned with the top edge, in relation to the bottom and top of the cutout for the camera.

That is what controls the orientation - on my bracket, you don't need the notches in the other corners, the holes control the orientation.

My "type 1" bracket, retaining the upright orientation from other trims.

My "type 2" bracket, using the upside-down orientation from the TH/TRD Pro.

Compare the holes on my CAD models to your bracket.

Also attached a picture of the actual "type 1" bracket I've sold probably 20 people on this forum. No one has yet to tell me that it mounted their camera in the wrong orientation. I think I only had one other member request that I send them a "type 2" bracket as they didn't mind the ECU reconfiguration.

Thank you for putting in so much time and effort on this with me.

I emailed rave just now waiting for their response.

I'm going to really digest everything you're saying in a bit when I can focus more.

But I have a 3d printer. Is it possible to print the bracket you have designed to make this work with what u see going on?

Obviously I'll pay you. Just looking to put this to bed today.

 

[Gurvy522]

Thank you for putting in so much time and effort on this with me.

I emailed rave just now waiting for their response.

I'm going to really digest everything you're saying in a bit when I can focus more.

But I have a 3d printer. Is it possible to print the bracket you have designed to make this work with what u see going on?

Obviously I'll pay you. Just looking to put this to bed today.

The file is available for free here in another thread I started. No need to pay me. If you have a printer, go for it, I recommended using solid infill ABS, PC, or ASA (or any other high-temp filament) could work as well. I print it in the same orientation as the image above, use supports for the ledges.

 

[emerica243]

Gurvys bracket for the win.

What a day.

 

[emerica243]

What a coincidental recent video by RAVE.

 

[Baltimore]

What a coincidental recent video by RAVE.

Good for them. And clearly there have been multiple people phoning/chatting/writing to them in order to order the part and take the time for the video. Now they should create one showing people how to adjust the camera after the fact, and what risks can exist.

 

[Baltimore]

Yeah. By getting my hands on the factory calibration process I was able to undo/fix what my dealership had broken and bring everything back online. It did take a combination of ups downs left rights and lift (which performs a zoom in/out btw).

Took about 3h but got it more aligned than even factory.

Debating whether to try and sell or just return with restock deduction the proper OEM camera for the heritage grille. Or swap it out anyway (except I don't have a tactrix cable to change the grille setting).

You need an area approximate 3 trucks wide by 2 trucks long to do the calibration. About 200ft of string, something to weight/anchor it with (you'll set 6 to 7 "lines"), a plumb bobb, a metric tape measure good for 10 meters ish, and about 2 full rolls of 2.5" painters tape (or other tape or material of high contrast to your ground color). You end up making 4 "x" and 6 dashes that have to be 10cm in width and the corner crosses are 80cm long on each arm!
Getting it set up took a bit over 2hs. Playing with the calibration menu in the truck took another 30 or so. The rest was initial prep and cleaning it all up.

 

[MHG]

OK, this thread makes my head hurt. I read it all and many other threads and I have a question that I am not sure anyone has the answer to.

When you watch the RAVE installation video, they tell you there is a "different configuration" on the bracket and a "different angle". WHY is there a different angle? Is it because the factory height is different on the TRD pro? meaning if you have an OR with a lift would the required angle be the same? If people are programing an +162 offset, is the angle of these RAVE brackets is off?

Has anyone ever made the factory bracket fit? I wonder what the results would be...

 

[Gurvy522]

OK, this thread makes my head hurt. I read it all and many other threads and I have a question that I am not sure anyone has the answer to.

When you watch the RAVE installation video, they tell you there is a "different configuration" on the bracket and a "different angle". WHY is there a different angle? Is it because the factory height is different on the TRD pro? meaning if you have an OR with a lift would the required angle be the same? If people are programing an +162 offset, is the angle of these RAVE brackets is off?

Has anyone ever made the factory bracket fit? I wonder what the results would be...

To answer your questions...

Yes - there is a height and pitch angle difference between the limited/TRDs and Pro/TH models... but in addition, one major difference - the OEM TH/Pro camera is mounted upside down when using the OEM bracket. Hence, there are 2 different primary setting options in the ECU, type 1 and type 2.

In addition to the primary settings, there is also a calibration setting, which allows for fine adjustments to the cameras around the vehicle. This ensures your 360 cam lines up nicely on a flat surface.

I realized (as Rave eventually did as well) that most folks will not want to touch ECU configurations or parameters. If the OE Pro/TH bracket was sold with these conversion kits, your front cam would view upside down, until you reflashed the ECU to the other different grille type. So, they sell a custom 3D printed bracket, that mounts to the TH/Pro grilles, but keeps the camera in the same orientation as other models (upright). This is the same type of bracket you can get/print here for free if you check my other threads.

The different grille type not only inverts the image, but also has different default calibration parameters. So you wouldn't need to go all the way to +162 to try to even out the image.

 

[rijc99]

I thought the different angle was because the OR grill doesn’t have a lightbar so the camera is mounted higher and at a steeper angle vs the Pro/TH which does have a lightbar and thus lower mount point.

 

[emerica243]

Here's what I did from a different thread fwiw

https://www.tacoma4g.com/forum/threads/how-to-recalibrate-your-360-cameras.11923/post-170570

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