Hybrid owners: Does the gas engine turn on when you start the car?

[AZTaco]

The automatic shutdown of the I.C.E. can be bypassed by operating the shift lever in "S" mode.

Or Tow/Haul mode.

Since the AC and all accessories will continue to run when the ICE is off, why would you want to bypass the auto shutdown?

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[crepr12]

 

[EVOTACO]

Since the AC and all accessories will continue to run when the ICE is off, why would you want to bypass the auto shutdown?

For me, it's just a personal preference thing. I don't care for the delay of the I.C.E. on restart and will immediately look for the auto start/stop disable button in any rental cars I come across that have it.

I wasn't aware tow/haul mode defeated it but found it interesting shifting to S mode defeated it.

 

[TacoFreak]

I have had some really nasty stop/start systems on rentals with ICEs and I always turn that off if I can too.

But when I move off from a start, my truck starts moving on the traction motor while also starting the ICE and the whole thing is so seamless I hardly notice that the engine wasn't there from the beginning. So for me there is no need to defeat it or to even pay a lot of attention to what is going on.

 

[EVOTACO]

But when I move off from a start, my truck starts moving on the traction motor while also starting the ICE and the whole thing is so seamless I hardly notice that the engine wasn't there from the beginning. So for me there is no need to defeat it or to even pay a lot of attention to what is going on.

Agreed. Reading my previous response, I think I was answering one thought by typing another. I don't specifically defeat it on the taco. Although, I probably would if there was a dedicated button to do so. I had stumbled across the S mode defeat while exploring the features of the truck. Turns out it is also described in the OM.

 

[AZTaco]

Auto Stop Start on any non-hybrid can be abrupt. Like TacoFreak said, with the traction motor providing instantaneous response the transition is almost seamless.

 

[Airborne]

When i start my truck in garage it starts…i ease out of garage into driveway, wings come out from door areas, im ready to fly…honestly i drive 8-12 miles a day love my Hybrid max, i dont pay attention to start or on or whatever..i get in drive and dont overthink it ….

 

[gasgasman]

A belt integrated starter is way better than the traction motor.
Most European cars have a belt integrated starter. They are seamless when cranking and restarting the engine.

 

[JayTech]

The Tacoma iForce Max does not have a true EV mode. It is entirely designed to function as a power and torque assist. The Tundra however can drive on full EV when throttle is depressed below a certain threshold. When you come to a stop and the motor turns off that isnt because it is a hybrid but because of the Stop/Start system.

 

[SnowmanJPS]

The Tacoma iForce Max does not have a true EV mode. It is entirely designed to function as a power and torque assist. The Tundra however can drive on full EV when throttle is depressed below a certain threshold. When you come to a stop and the motor turns off that isnt because it is a hybrid but because of the Stop/Start system.

The Tacoma can also drive with the electric motor under half the motors load limit before the ICE kicks on

 

[AZTaco]

The Tacoma iForce Max does not have a true EV mode. It is entirely designed to function as a power and torque assist. The Tundra however can drive on full EV when throttle is depressed below a certain threshold. When you come to a stop and the motor turns off that isnt because it is a hybrid but because of the Stop/Start system.

Yeah, not sure where you heard that. On flat roads between 40-45mph mine will regularly shut the engine down and cruise for several minutes. When I pull into my neighborhood and drive 20mph it's all EV and when in parking lots I cruise around full EV.

 

[TacoFreak]

Yeah, not sure where you heard that. On flat roads between 40-45mph mine will regularly shut the engine down and cruise for several minutes. When I pull into my neighborhood and drive 20mph it's all EV and when in parking lots I cruise around full EV.

Yeah, that is how my truck works too.

My truck will stay in electric for a good while on downhill sections of moderate speed roads. It will drive on electric at low speeds near my house unless I push the accelerator very hard. It shuts off well before it is stopped, which is how all the hybrids I have driven work also. IMO this drivetrain does not have the typical stop/start system but functions like any other hybrid at low speeds.

I also don't see why a belt driven starter would be better. The traction motor is directly connected to the engine and it starts it instantly, and quietly without the driver even noticing that the engine has been off. In what way would a more complicated belt drive function any better?

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