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Thanks for the post! I hadn’t realized they changed my subscription to the “Premium” one and opened up Drive Connect (the only part I actually use). Get $7 back a month now
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I feel like I'm the only one that thinks it's crazy that people are willing to pay Toyota to collect their conversations, driving data, pictures/video from their cameras, GPS positions, and whatever else they specify in the privacy policy just to have remote start access.
 

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I feel like I'm the only one that thinks it's crazy that people are willing to pay Toyota to collect their conversations, driving data, pictures/video from their cameras, GPS positions, and whatever else they specify in the privacy policy just to have remote start access.
You're not the only one. But, I mean, you are in a thread specifically about a price decrease for people who want app remote start.
 

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You're not the only one. But, I mean, you are in a thread specifically about a price decrease for people who want app remote start.
I think the biggest thing is that people don't even know what they're signing up for, or in better terms what they're paying to give away.

If they actually read the Connected Services privacy policy and what all data Toyota collects there may be a lot less subscriptions.

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I think the biggest thing is that people don't even know what they're signing up for, or in better terms what they're paying to give away.

If they actually read the Connected Services privacy policy and what all data Toyota collects there may be a lot less subscriptions.
It's my understanding that even without paying them, they can collect driving information and other telematics unless you explicitly not just cancel connected services but also withdraw Vehicle Connectivity Consent (which is assumed when you purchase a Toyota). That, or bypass the DCM.
 

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It's my understanding that even without paying them, they can collect driving information and other telematics unless you explicitly not just cancel connected services but also withdraw Vehicle Connectivity Consent (which is assumed when you purchase a Toyota). That, or bypass the DCM.
Yep, exactly why I run the bypass harness. Haven't gotten any texts/emails from dealerships about routine maintenence since.
 

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Yep, exactly why I run the bypass harness. Haven't gotten any texts/emails from dealerships about routine maintenence since.
Soooo, just canceling the subscription isn't enough, there is another step you need to do (either withdraw consent or bypass the DCM), and some people want the connectivity to begin with and are willing to deal with the consequences of data brokers. For the guy that said he travels a bunch, this convenience makes sense.

People have different values. I'm with you on this one, but most don't care. It's just like people still use Meta and Alphabet products despite the numerous reports, articles, and lawsuits against them for their data collection and mishandling.
 

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Re connected the $8 app. Thanks for making it known.
 

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Thanks for the info.
I renewed my subscription at $8 monthly 30 minutes ago but the app is slow to respond and won't start my truck.
Any suggestions?
I just signed up for it as well. I went from the $15 a month to the $8 a month. It took about 24 hours for everything to work. Is yours working now??
 

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Look at the permissions on anyone of your apps on your phones and everyone is collecting tons of data on all of us. Big brother is and will always be tracking us. Even if you dont have a cell phone, systems like Flock cameras are tracking everyone and you have little control.
 

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Look at the permissions on anyone of your apps on your phones and everyone is collecting tons of data on all of us. Big brother is and will always be tracking us. Even if you dont have a cell phone, systems like Flock cameras are tracking everyone and you have little control.
Yes, so I'm just going to give them another data point - oh and I'm also going to pay them to do it as well.

Read the privacy policy I attached. You're consenting to allowing them to collect any conversations in the cab that the microphones pick up, exterior image data from your cameras, speed and telemetry (that is then sent to insurance), among just a few.

The "well you're already being tracked" argument just shows your ignorance, complicity, and weakness.
 

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Yes, so I'm just going to give them another data point - oh and I'm also going to pay them to do it as well.

Read the privacy policy I attached. You're consenting to allowing them to collect any conversations in the cab that the microphones pick up, exterior image data from your cameras, speed and telemetry (that is then sent to insurance), among just a few.

The "well you're already being tracked" argument just shows your ignorance, complicity, and weakness.
My point was Toyota isnt the only one tracking us all. I am not saying its ok, I try to opt out on as much tracking as I can. No need to throw insults
 

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I do believe there was an option to opt out for the insurance companies specifically for what thats worth.
 
 






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