Spare Tire Alternatives for a 285/70/r17

[TacoBirdinNW]

Yeah that looks pretty sweet. I fucked up and got the oem trd lift not realizing it doesn't handle added weight very well. My rear springs are constantly compressed almost 2 inches more than they should be. Adding a swing out will just make this problem even worse not only adding more weight but pushing out the center of gravity.

Planning on waiting for warranties to expire before swapping out all the suspension for something that can handheld handle all the weight. I got the smartcap, roof rack, full skids, sliders, bumper, winch, Dual battery setup. The trd suspension can't handle all that and adding more weight is just gonna make it worse..... did it to myself, should've done a lot more research on all this. Lessons learned

Yea I feel that. Even with a 1" spacer on top of the rear OEM springs I had to switch to the icon overland springs with my topper due to sag and that ocean boat feeling. The hitch mounted swingouts aren't too heavy though, so good option v.s. Taking up all that bed space.

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[DinnyJon]

Yea I feel that. Even with a 1" spacer on top of the rear OEM springs I had to switch to the icon overland springs with my topper due to sag and that ocean boat feeling. The hitch mounted swingouts aren't too heavy though, so good option v.s. Taking up all that bed space.

How did those icon overland springs end up working for you? I actually bought a pair a few months back and they've been sitting in my garage. Yet again I failed to do the proper research before just buying shit but when I went to install them I read a bunch of stuff saying they would drastically reduce the performance of the entire rear suspension. The AI robots told me this:

The toyota bilstein shocks are custom-valved to control the softer, linear factory coil springs. They do not have the heavy rebound damping required to control a stiff, unloaded dual-rate overland spring. The rear end will be severely under-damped, resulting in a bouncy, "pogo-stick" ride over rough terrain.

I was tempted to just install them anyway and see how it felt but then I got to thinking about the warranty factor on the dealership installed trd lift. Ended up just getting some nice bump stops that sit like an inch from the axle. Pretty sad but I feel like those are doing the most of the suspension work on the rear right now haha

 

[TacoBirdinNW]

How did those icon overland springs end up working for you? I actually bought a pair a few months back and they've been sitting in my garage. Yet again I failed to do the proper research before just buying shit but when I went to install them I read a bunch of stuff saying they would drastically reduce the performance of the entire rear suspension. The AI robots told me this:

The toyota bilstein shocks are custom-valved to control the softer, linear factory coil springs. They do not have the heavy rebound damping required to control a stiff, unloaded dual-rate overland spring. The rear end will be severely under-damped, resulting in a bouncy, "pogo-stick" ride over rough terrain.

I was tempted to just install them anyway and see how it felt but then I got to thinking about the warranty factor on the dealership installed trd lift. Ended up just getting some nice bump stops that sit like an inch from the axle. Pretty sad but I feel like those are doing the most of the suspension work on the rear right now haha

I love em man! I am running the Bilstein 5100 which are valved for OEM springs. But the OEM springs were so soft, even with just the camper the truck felt like a boat. The Icons were quite a bit longer than stock, passenger rear was a real pain in the ass to get in.
@ 350# they were sitting a little over 1.5" above stock height. Once I got the full size spare and dirtcom trailswing on they are about an inch over stock and with camp gear they sit 1/2" over stock height. Haven't had any issues. Did end up relocating the track bar with the rear lift height and that made a huge difference in handling and feel.
I'll be honest, all that valving shit confuses me and people seem to throw all sorts of shit on their rigs all willy nilly and seem to be fine. I mean, people here have those stock bilsteins stretched out 2" over stock height, which they aren't even designed for, and I haven't seen anyone talking about any catastrophic failures so I stopped sweating it too much. I did make sure to stay within the lift height my 5100s are designed for which is why I went with Icon, because the lift height was predictable under load. I didn't want a massive amount of lift like I've seen some folks get with other rear springs.
I love my 5100s so if I ever have any issues with them not being able to handle the load or what I do with the truck I would just bump up to the 6112/6100.
But yea, long story long, love the feel of my overland springs with the proper weight on the truck.

 

[shuo]

I can confirm that a 285/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3W retail version at 38psi will fit in the spare location. It’s VERY tight and require guidance.

 

[TacoBirdinNW]

I can confirm that a 285/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3W retail version at 38psi will fit in the spare location. It’s VERY tight and require guidance.

Ditto. Got the 285/70r17 Pathfinder to fit with guidance, but after track bar relocation it was this close

 

[bsquaredMTB]

Yeah I've read in several posts that it fits. I'm more concerned about the change in clearance at the bottom

 

[shuo]

Side views. You loose an 1”+ 1/4

 

[Dutchman4]

Probably acceptable for mild off-roading but looks like too much exposure for the spare tire to get side wall damage during technical trails, IMO.

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