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You don't have to convince me twice about installing non-sense on my taco, but honestly you lost me with how you're describing the effects of this metal rod would have on the truck's performance, it simply cannot have an effect on the things you're describing, otherwise, you wouldn't have to explain it so hard lol. I understand trying to convince yourself that this $1000.00 (I can't imagine how much with all the hardware you bought) is a great, game changing device just to back track it in the next comments? I don't really care what other people do their trucks, but this is literally, too much bs.

I honestly hope you're like selling them, or the inventor, because otherwise you are a dream for product developers and marketers.
Not selling them! Just seen them on Lexus vehicles before and was excited someone made some for the Tacomas.

I'm bummed my explanations come off as bs or justifying the purchase and you see my clarification posts as backtracking.

I'll remember to be more careful with my words in the future, and will be sure to let others post their comments without trying to correct them.
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Not selling them! Just seen them on Lexus vehicles before and was excited someone made some for the Tacomas.

I'm bummed my explanations come off as bs or justifying the purchase and you see my clarification posts as backtracking.

I'll remember to be more careful with my words in the future, and will be sure to let others post their comments without trying to correct them.
If it helps, I didn't find the comments to be BS - just maybe a little condescending LOL!

As a longggg time mechanic, who also builds things, designs things, and studied engineering a bit - that's where I"m coming from trying to understand what movement (vibration is movement) they're damping....
 

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If it helps, I didn't find the comments to be BS - just maybe a little condescending LOL!

As a longggg time mechanic, who also builds things, designs things, and studied engineering a bit - that's where I"m coming from trying to understand what movement (vibration is movement) they're damping....
In a unibody, there's flex between the front frame rails. Not alot mind you, but there is some. There would also be some in the rear, but even less. That's where Lexus puts them, and I could see how that flex at speed over bumps could come off as a harmonic vibration. I'm not sure it would even be noticeable, but I get the target.

On a truck though is where its entirely lost on me. Especially mounted 6" from a fully welded hitch where the flex would be virtually zero. Even then if there was, and that vibration could be felt, how exactly would it even translate into the cabin when it floats on rubber cushions? So much vibration, that it would be tangible at that.
 

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In a unibody, there's flex between the front frame rails. Not alot mind you, but there is some. There would also be some in the rear, but even less. That's where Lexus puts them, and I could see how that flex at speed over bumps could come off as a harmonic vibration. I'm not sure it would even be noticeable, but I get the target.

On a truck though is where its entirely lost on me. Especially mounted 6" from a fully welded hitch where the flex would be virtually zero. Even then if there was, and that vibration could be felt, how exactly would it even translate into the cabin when it floats on rubber cushions? So much vibration, that it would be tangible at that.
My thoughts as well..... I think we'd be better off with sound mats in the body panels.... OP though says he feels improved handling...which for what these are, I can't see...
 

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Chassis dampeners are all about NVH. Think of it like noise canceling but for vibrations, or a counterbalance. They are used in higher end unibody chassis cars to reduce NVH. I havent seen them used for Body on Frame vehicles, but it would have the same affect but possibly less noticable. Its not acting like a chassis stiffener, but absorbing harmonics.
 

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Chassis dampeners are all about NVH. Think of it like noise canceling but for vibrations, or a counterbalance. They are used in higher end unibody chassis cars to reduce NVH. I havent seen them used for Body on Frame vehicles, but it would have the same affect but possibly less noticable. Its not acting like a chassis stiffener, but absorbing harmonics.
Right, and I mentioned earlier the dampers in the 60s cameras convertibles... those were a counterbalance damper, one in each corner.
The trick is, those have real.movement to dampening. Putting what is basically a shock absorbers parallel to a rigid frame.member cannot dampen much.... Like I said before too... a better solution would be the typical asphalt/butler sound mats we see from audio installs...
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