Sponsored
Considering a Tundra
- Thread starter Airborne
- Start date
- Watchers 11
If Toyota was going to, they already would have. Nissan briefly dipped their toes in with their XD Cummins Titan. I think Toyota watched it closely and determined it was the final nail in the coffin for and HD model?
- First Name
- Rick
- Joined
- Aug 27, 2026
- Threads
- 2
- Messages
- 70
- Reaction score
- 52
- Location
- Monument, Colorado
- Vehicle(s)
- 2014 Toyota Tundra SR5 TRD 4x4
No, it's not fixed....even the replacement engines that they put into all of the recalled Tundra's are doing almost the same thing, camshafts failing which leads to catastrophic engine failures.
Sad, I've been waiting and saving up for 5-years to replace my beloved 2014 Tundra but I've given up hoping and waiting.....getting a Tacoma Limited to replace her, now.
The Car Care Nut (Ahmed) bought a 2023 or 2024 Tundra Hybrid and a recent video he said he's disappointed in how the quality of the Tundra seems to have dropped....his volume knob on the radio just fell right of and the truck has many fit-and-finish problems....something you don't expect in a $70K vehicle. (And Toyota didn't replace the Hybrid engines, so he's stuck with the original V35A and hoping it doesn't blow up.)
There's another YouTuber who loves Toyota trucks and he's saying if we stop buying them maybe Toyota will fix them but that's not happening. My theory is the other issues in other maker's trucks are making them buy Toyota's....I don't know a single 2nd Gen Tundra owner who traded in for a 3rd Gen...not a one.
Anyway, if anyone DOES buy a new Tundra, PLEASE buy their extended warranty to protect yourself.
Sad, I've been waiting and saving up for 5-years to replace my beloved 2014 Tundra but I've given up hoping and waiting.....getting a Tacoma Limited to replace her, now.
The Car Care Nut (Ahmed) bought a 2023 or 2024 Tundra Hybrid and a recent video he said he's disappointed in how the quality of the Tundra seems to have dropped....his volume knob on the radio just fell right of and the truck has many fit-and-finish problems....something you don't expect in a $70K vehicle. (And Toyota didn't replace the Hybrid engines, so he's stuck with the original V35A and hoping it doesn't blow up.)
There's another YouTuber who loves Toyota trucks and he's saying if we stop buying them maybe Toyota will fix them but that's not happening. My theory is the other issues in other maker's trucks are making them buy Toyota's....I don't know a single 2nd Gen Tundra owner who traded in for a 3rd Gen...not a one.
Anyway, if anyone DOES buy a new Tundra, PLEASE buy their extended warranty to protect yourself.
- First Name
- Will
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2025
- Threads
- 5
- Messages
- 517
- Reaction score
- 611
- Location
- Quad Cities
- Vehicle(s)
- 2025 TRD OR
I wouldn't necessarily compare nissan or anything they do to another OEM. Nor do I believe Toyota watched them at all. Nissan has been on a downward spiral for a decade in some sort of attempt to beat out Mitsubishi for worst Japanese car company.
The Titan XD was a total failure for good reason. The Titan itself was the worst selling full size truck by far. I remember at one point I think Edmunds stopped doing their yearly testing of it due to scoring at the bottom in every category for years consecutively. The XD was an answer to a question nobody asked, "what if the worst selling truck had a (heavy duty) variant that still could not tow as much as an American half ton and was a little bit worse in every way?". The diesel they chose was a dumpster fire, the truck itself underperformed. The CEO of the company at the time is still wanted for Fraud and is currently hiding in Lebanon.
With the death of the Titan, the Tundra is now the lowest in sales but Toyota as a whole is doing better than Nissan ever has. Last year they still sold more Tundras with all of its faults, recalls, and uncertainty, than Nissan sold Titans in its best year ever by almost double. If they had fixed their reliability issues they likely would have passed Stellantis and still may in the future.
Sponsored
The Tundra and a different small run of Toyota transmissions had a swarf management problem, not a design problem. In the same approximate window if time, so did others. It is important to have some middle school math skills in this too. The GM and Honda recalls exceeded the number of units with the problem.
Otherwise I'm not sure what to say. I don't like driving a vehicle bigger than needed. We replaced aging full-sized pickups with a pair of diesel UTVs. Those have been way better than large or small pickups for a whole lot of work.
Updated front end and radio won't save it from the cheap quality parts being put in it. Seat side trim, volume knobs, weather strip, mirrors, engines, power tailgates, door check straps, and more are constantly failing and needing replacement. The Tundras are just not currently a good option. Working at a dealer I see a lot of them, but maybe the mid gen refresh will solve a lot of the problems with quality. Until I actually see it though, I will remain doubtful. I wanted a Tundra at first but the quality control issues steered me completely away from it and I opted for the Tacoma instead. 20k KM and one year later and the Taco has been flawless. Definitely do not regret my decision. If I were to go for a larger truck, it would be the Ram. 5.7 Hemi with a nice upscale interior that is actually really appealing to me.
Agree… Was in the market for a Tundra also but the build quality is definitely not up to Toyota standards! Hopefully that will change with the refresh? Either way I’m sticking with the Tacoma, suits my needs and is solid.
I don't think it's the build quality per say. It's design, engineering and parts quality. The best assembly plant with the best people can't overcome those short comings. The parts can only go together one way. I also believe the bean counters were given free rein on this model and their only purpose is to get a chart on a wall about "how much money they saved the company". They know little to nothing about what should be done and where they shouldn't cut costs.
I have a friend who has been the used car manager at my local dealer for almost 30 years. His exact words were, "Toyota has ruined the Tundra name, maybe forever. The only people buying them these days are ones that have been under a rock the last 5 years and have no clue".
Those are harsh words. But he deals with them everyday.
I have a friend who has been the used car manager at my local dealer for almost 30 years. His exact words were, "Toyota has ruined the Tundra name, maybe forever. The only people buying them these days are ones that have been under a rock the last 5 years and have no clue".
Those are harsh words. But he deals with them everyday.
Last edited:
Sponsored
- First Name
- Rick
- Joined
- Aug 27, 2026
- Threads
- 2
- Messages
- 70
- Reaction score
- 52
- Location
- Monument, Colorado
- Vehicle(s)
- 2014 Toyota Tundra SR5 TRD 4x4
Yep my co-worker's son-in-law is a master tech at our local Toyota dealer. Just last week, I asked him if he's, still, replacing the V35 engine...yep, still doing about 3 a week.
Just sad.
Just sad.
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2024
- Threads
- 0
- Messages
- 40
- Reaction score
- 24
- Location
- Alberta, Canada
- Vehicle(s)
- 2024 Tacoma TRD OR (Hybrid)
I have alway been a toyota guy, but I'm thinking of a Sierra/Silverado with the 3.0 diesel. Likely a used '24-'26 as the new models are just too dam expensive.
Tacoma back is just going to be too small for me going forward and the Tundra reviews aren't great.
Tacoma back is just going to be too small for me going forward and the Tundra reviews aren't great.
I also deal with them everyday and he isn't wrong. Everyone that owns a last gen Tundra refuses to buy a new one because they just aren't the same quality product anymore.
As for my comment about build quality, it was mostly about poor parts. It isn't an assembly issue. But bad parts are part of the overall build quality. And Toyota especially as of late has tried to minimize costs which is just driving up the amount of low quality parts.
We haven't done any under recall lately because Toyota now wants to do a resonance test on the bearing first but we have had a few in that have started to knock and show signs of a lot of debris.
Guessing you're a technician? It would be easy in your position to always assume the sky is falling, because you mostly only see problems. It's a lot like going to the doctor and realizing everyone in the waiting room is sick. Well yeah, that's where sick people go. It doesn't necessarily mean "something is going around". But in the case of the Tundra, I would say you see a disproportionate number of them in for various reasons, not just the engines vs other models.
I'm glad to see Toyota allowing you guys to throw in turn-key engines instead of short blocks. What a nightmare that was for you folks. It's bad enough that you have to literally remove the entire cab to replace the engine, but then be tasked with R&R of the old components into to the new SB on top of that? Crazy. And I shudder to think what the flat rate was. Bet you have a few work shirts with FIPG permanently on them too.
The environment for folks turning wrenches at dealerships isn't always a kind one. It's ashame it's that way.
Sponsored
