Bed 120v outlet questions

[Muckle]

I tested charging my Jackery Explorer 1000 v2 power station via the in-bed 120v AC outlet and it wouldn't work. Truck was running (in park), 120v AC button near the AUX gauges was engaged. I could hear the Jackery audibly clicking every few seconds, as if it was attempting to charge but failing.

I moved it over to the 12v DC plug on the other side of the bed and it charges the Jackery at 100W.

Any thoughts? The 120v bed outlet is supposed to charge at 400w in P (and unfortunately only 100W when driving) per manual. I am assuming the Jackery is requiring more than 400W when charging via AC, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

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[Mjsimmons]

I tested charging my Jackery Explorer 1000 v2 power station via the in-bed 120v AC outlet and it wouldn't work. Truck was running (in park), 120v AC button near the AUX gauges was engaged. I could hear the Jackery audibly clicking every few seconds, as if it was attempting to charge but failing.

I moved it over to the 12v DC plug on the other side of the bed and it charges the Jackery at 100W.

Any thoughts? The 120v bed outlet is supposed to charge at 400w in P (and unfortunately only 100W when driving) per manual. I am assuming the Jackery is requiring more than 400W when charging via AC, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

I have my Kickass LiFePO4 battery box connected to the AC outlet in the bed of my Trailhunter. It is connected via a smart charger and works very well when I engage the AC switch on the dash. I also have my fridge/freezer connected to the outlet and the battery box.

 

[BoboForShort]

I'm assuming it's attempting to pull too many watts and tripping something. Not sure about the Jackery but you can limit the charge wattage of many battery banks through their app.

 

[Mtnbikes]

It might have to do with lack of sine wave technology with the inverter. Have you looked into that?

 

[gofastdan]

It might have to do with lack of sine wave technology with the inverter. Have you looked into that?

This is the answer. Toyota used a modified sine wave inverter in the Tacoma. They've done it for years and it's one of the little cost cutting items that irritates me. The vast majority of solar generator units won't charge unless it's a pure sine wave inverter. For me, it basically renders the AC outlet useless since charging would be almost the only thing I would have ever used it for.

Also irritating is that the 400 watts steps down to 100 watts unless the truck is in park. There are ways to bypass that on the older gen trucks but to the best of my knowledge no one has figured out the new wiring yet (I tried, it's not exactly the same inverter as the last gen).

 

[Mtnbikes]

It’s not just Toyota. I had the same issue in my Ford Ranger not using pure sine wave technology. I really don’t understand these manufacturers cutting corners where they should not. Another case in point where they focus on profitability instead of what the consumer wants.

 

[BoboForShort]

This is the answer. Toyota used a modified sine wave inverter in the Tacoma. They've done it for years and it's one of the little cost cutting items that irritates me. The vast majority of solar generator units won't charge unless it's a pure sine wave inverter. For me, it basically renders the AC outlet useless since charging would be almost the only thing I would have ever used it for.

Also irritating is that the 400 watts steps down to 100 watts unless the truck is in park. There are ways to bypass that on the older gen trucks but to the best of my knowledge no one has figured out the new wiring yet (I tried, it's not exactly the same inverter as the last gen).

Did they only use the same inverter tech as last gen for the non-hybrids? I know on the hybrids it's a pure sign wave and I haven't heard of anyone, myself included, having any issues charging battery banks. I even found someone saying their Jackery of the same model as OP worked great.

 

[Mtnbikes]

I will try both my Jackery and EcoFlow later today and post. I have only used the 12v in my truck bed to power my Dometic frig/freezer.

 

[gofastdan]

Did they only use the same inverter tech as last gen for the non-hybrids? I know on the hybrids it's a pure sign wave and I haven't heard of anyone, myself included, having any issues charging battery banks. I even found someone saying their Jackery of the same model as OP worked great.

Good point, the hybrids are certainly different. For one thing, it's not 400 watts. It's something like 2,000 watts? IDK, don't have one so never focused on the exact specs.... ;o)

 

[soupy1234]

It’s not just Toyota. I had the same issue in my Ford Ranger not using pure sine wave technology. I really don’t understand these manufacturers cutting corners where they should not. Another case in point where they focus on profitability instead of what the consumer wants.

You could also look at it the other way around. Why are battery manufacturers insisting on pure sine wave input in order to just charge a battery.

 

[Mtnbikes]

You could also look at it the other way around. Why are battery manufacturers insisting on pure sine wave input in order to just charge a battery.

Pure sine wave inverters are more capable of producing cleaner, smoother, quieter, and more reliable electricity to operate appliances and electronics without interference. Plus it provides better protection for sensitive and expensive electronics.

 

[bsquaredMTB]

I just tried charging mine in Park and it was inputting 225ish watts. Seems reasonable. Am I missing something here?

 

[Pappy]

I have friends who have the same issue charging a Jackery off their onboard 120V outlet. It doesn't work. Think about this a minute. 100W is less that 1A at 120V. That's isn't much. I only use mine to charge tool batteries (Stihl and Dewalt). It works just fine for that task. My Dewalt charger pulls 200W (1.7A).

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