disabling DCM / telematics in 2025 Taco

[Dayen]

I would recommend not pulling the GPS antenna wire. I think it's the center one. GPS does not transmit. It will theoretically prevent the vehicle from storing location data locally, but I don't think it's doing much/any of that.

The head unit furnishes the GPS data to Android Auto and CarPlay. It's much more accurate than it is coming from the phone, as it's roof mounted vs under a giant sheet of metal. You'll get a less jerky Android Auto/CarPlay map if you leave the GPS intact. I'm assuming it still actually works when the telephone antennas are terminated...will find out when my cables/terminators arrive.

Also on the subject of cables and terminators.... One of the amazon reviews is saying that particular terminator is crap and not actually terminating the signal. I ordered some from Mouser Electronics instead. 712-2467938-1 terminators and 523-095Z820159012 cables. Definitely more expensive. Probably safe to still buy cables from amazon. TBD if these work well at all, they're in the mail at the moment. The Amazon ones might be just fine, but I've 100% had it with that site and its fake crap.

Thank you for this tip, I have noticed that my GPS in Android Auto acts quite strange sometimes because the antenna is unplugged. Do we think that it's using the port as the "antenna" anyways instead of your phone's GPS? I will probably plug the GPS antenna back in this weekend when I have time and see how it does

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[Droid]

Thank you for this tip, I have noticed that my GPS in Android Auto acts quite strange sometimes because the antenna is unplugged. Do we think that it's using the port as the "antenna" anyways instead of your phone's GPS? I will probably plug the GPS antenna back in this weekend when I have time and see how it does

I tested with a couple of Android Auto phones and they pretty rough when the GPS was off (Had DCM fuse pulled). The Pixel 8 Pro's GPS did better than the Pixel 7's.

Android Auto definitely is reading a GPS signal from the head unit. I'm not an expert on Android Auto development but have been playing with the code of OrganicMaps (an open source AA-supporting map app). It is sending GPS location data to the phone. I had set up a device to only use the headunit-provided location and it was totally frozen after I powered off the DCM.

I'm guessing the DCM has the GPS in it and is simply sending a data steram of latlongs to the head unit. I don't think any GPS antenna connects to the head unit itself.

PS thanks much for the MT specific teardown instructions!

 

[Dayen]

I tested with a couple of Android Auto phones and they pretty rough when the GPS was off (Had DCM fuse pulled). The Pixel 8 Pro's GPS did better than the Pixel 7's.

Android Auto definitely is reading a GPS signal from the head unit. I'm not an expert on Android Auto development but have been playing with the code of OrganicMaps (an open source AA-supporting map app). It is sending GPS location data to the phone. I had set up a device to only use the headunit-provided location and it was totally frozen after I powered off the DCM.

I'm guessing the DCM has the GPS in it and is simply sending a data steram of latlongs to the head unit. I don't think any GPS antenna connects to the head unit itself.

PS thanks much for the MT specific teardown instructions!

No problem!
I have a pixel 6a and just assumed that the gps module in the phone was the issue. Didn't get to it today because I was too busy being hungry but I'll try and do it tomorrow!

Glad you enjoyed the manual teardown information, there is not much information on the 6 speed cars out there it seems, check out my post a few weeks ago about the nalgene cupholders if you're also thinking about that!

 

[TacoLoon]

No problem!
I have a pixel 6a and just assumed that the gps module in the phone was the issue. Didn't get to it today because I was too busy being hungry but I'll try and do it tomorrow!

Glad you enjoyed the manual teardown information, there is not much information on the 6 speed cars out there it seems, check out my post a few weeks ago about the nalgene cupholders if you're also thinking about that!

Did you get around to testing with GPS still plugged in? That would be the middle wire correct? I appreciate you guys sharing this information. Thanks

 

[Sancheesy]

I have unplugged and ran the cap system here but everything is still the same. The truck still shows how fast you're going over the speed limit as well as the stop signs etc. At this [oint if the only recourse is to take the fuse out. Any help would be swell

 

[shuo]

Posting a how-to on grounding out the antennas used by the DCM telematics module.

This post is not a debate about the puposes of telematics communicating data back to a toyota service center ,or legality of same -- only a how-to for those interested.

Background - why bother?
- All recent toyotas have a always-on cellular connection to Toyota corporate via thee internet. This enables lots of data reporting and remote monitoring & control of the vehicle. This includes GPS location, speed and other data. Maybe you don't care, maybe you feel the pros of being connected outweight the cons; but some people don't want this data being sent at all.

What data gets sent?
I Refer you to the 2024 service manual where it says:

The HOW-TO for those interested:

I know that on other Toyota models, pulling the DCM fuse results in a Check Engine Light. I Haven't tested this on my Taco; but i don't want a bogus CEL masking other legit causes for CEL. So i looked for a method to keep DCM communicating to ECU but not the outside world.

After some research I found this thread. This method takes less than 15 minutes and is completely reversable. Basically unplugging three oem cables and plugging in three terminated dummy cables which tell the DCM it's out of range for cellular and GPS. This does NOT affect any other cellular or GPS devices you might have in the vehicle.

First, I looked up the location of the DCM module in my 2025 Taco. It's behind the phone shelf/charging area just ahead of the shifter.

I purchased three 'Fakra Z Female to SMA Female Vehicle Antenna Adapter cables' and some 50-ohm SMA terminators off Amazon. The square Fakra Z shells on the jumper cables need to be removed leaving just the inner coax connector, becuase the Fakra shells are are too Fakrin' wide to fit into the Toyota DCM. Do this carefully so as not to damage or bend the inner coax connector fins.


Accessing the DCM is easy; the panel holding the phone shelf/Qi charger basially pops forward and unclips. Once loose it can be pivoted to the right allowing acess to guts of the console. The DCM is front and center.

The antenna leads are on the left:

The latches for the connectors are at the front. I suggest using a right-angle tool such as a pick to push the latches inwards while tugging gently on the cables. They pop out easily.

Install the terminated jumpers into the three DCM sockets you just freed up. The connectors have a slight interference fit so they won't easily fall out.

You could probably? just let the jumpers dangle in the dash area but i wanted to take their weight off the interference-fit coax connectors at the DCM side. So I used an ahdesive-backed zip-tie mount and a zip tie stuck right to the front of the DCM, through wich i looped the three new jumper cables. Now there is no weight pulling down on the connectors landed in the DCM.

I Pushed the three OEM cables back into the dash and let them dangle.

I started the truck at this point to check for any CELs... no problems found.

Reinstall the phone shelf/carger plate in reverse sequence. Start the bottom with the vertical fin connectors.

That's all there is to it. At this point the DCM will this it is out of range for both cellular and GPS.

Note: the OEM "emergency assistance"button and other "connected services" are now diabled, obvi, as it requres that built-in cellular link. I infer that pulling the onboard GPS antenna also functionally blinds the onboard oem navigation. If you use onboard oem Nav, the you could experiment with reconnecting the GPS antenna only I guess? YMMV.

This will NOT affect any carplay, cellular or GPS accessed via a paired smartphone.

How is your infotainment functionality. I noticed that my profile was not saving and having issues with the key card.

 

[rchrds]

I have unplugged and ran the cap system here but everything is still the same. The truck still shows how fast you're going over the speed limit as well as the stop signs etc. At this [oint if the only recourse is to take the fuse out. Any help would be swell

I'm pretty sure the stop signs and speed limits indicators are driven from visual information from the cameras, not the GPS. Don't expect you would see any changes in these. The only way you could confirm it was not transmitting information would be to try to hook up your phone app and have it never find the vehicle. Someone correct me if I am incorrect.

 

[OminousSkitter]

I have unplugged and ran the cap system here but everything is still the same. The truck still shows how fast you're going over the speed limit as well as the stop signs etc. At this [oint if the only recourse is to take the fuse out. Any help would be swell

Where are you complaining that the truck show this? Are you saying on the phone app or on the truck?

Telematics little to do with in-truck notices like that*. Map data + GPS knows what speed limits are and where stop signs are. Front-facing cameras + RSA read road signs like speed limits and stop signs to display that information. Disabling telematic antennas do not change this.

If it's just displayed in the infotainment, are you using Android Auto or CarPlay? Both of those will do that, too.

Now, if you're still getting information back into the phone app, then the telematics are still being reported back to Toyota and that is a different concern.

* Map data like that is updated through the DCM (I believe), but that's about it.

 

[SVMTRCST]

I pulled my fuse about two weeks after buying. I do not use mic or phone etc.. I had my fuse pulled for like 3 years on my 2021 4Runner and put it back in before trading in no issues.

Personally, I would be happy with only a FM radio and get rid of all the safety nonsense 3.0 which I have turned all off that I can.

 

[maxx075]

I was bored one night before bed and couldn't sleep, so I started reading the fine print about connected services.

Did you know that your truck will take pictures and send those back to Toyota as well?

 

[Sancheesy]

On the truck itself.
I have no ego so if anyone has an answer to the telematics other than pulling the fuse I'm all ears/

 

[OminousSkitter]

On the truck itself.
I have no ego so if anyone has an answer to the telematics other than pulling the fuse I'm all ears/

It's not the DCM/telematics that's displaying that. Pull the fuse if you want to check.

 

[maxx075]

On the truck itself.
I have no ego so if anyone has an answer to the telematics other than pulling the fuse I'm all ears/

If you're using the bypass harness telematics are not being sent back since there's no power connection to the DCM. The Toyota safety sense system is what is reporting the speed limit signs and whatnot on the dash cluster via the camera in the windshield.

 

[rchrds]

Did you know that your truck will take pictures and send those back to Toyota as well?

That’s not all. It reports service lights to your local dealership if they have your contact info. I’d spent two years with my local dealership trying to get them to contact me about a service issue, and finally in the last 6 months I started getting responses from them. Last week my service required message came up (I do my own oil changes and set it myself) and within 10 minutes I got an automated email from my dealership saying my care was due for service and I should bring it in.

 

[Sancheesy]

If you're using the bypass harness telematics are not being sent back since there's no power connection to the DCM. The Toyota safety sense system is what is reporting the speed limit signs and whatnot on the dash cluster via the camera in the windshield.

I did put the harness in. So the safety sense can not send this info to Toyota or in the dealership?
If that's the case great because I'll be damned if the insurance company gets my info. Again I appreciate the help fellas.

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