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Solution: Don't sustain low RPM/high boost conditions. If you need power, drop a gear or two.

Should you be panicking? Probably not. If your engine is still running don't worry about it. If its an automatic trans, it probably downshifts before creating optimal LSPI conditions.

LSPI was an early Turbo's cars problem not so much ours.
The fact is, there is an increased chance, albeit small, that LSPI can happen. The mostly likely scenario is with a turbocharged, direct injected (D4s = port injection too) engine driven easily. That fits my daily situation more often than not. 93 gives me a bit of headroom and is a personal choice. That's all. I'm not hunting for performance gains and the additional cost isn't an issue.
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Are you let us in you-re secret? mystery oil, we-re all in here to learn something.
As mentioned by “Slappy”, it’s a multipurpose additive that’s been around for a while. I’ve used it in most of my vehicles. I can’t claim it makes a difference, but I like the idea of a little extra fuel lubricity.
 

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The manual says "minimum 87 octane or higher". I choose the higher route. It certainly isn't hurting anything.
Oh make no mistake, higher octane isn't bad at all. It's delicious. But, not necessary and a waste of money without a tune.
 

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Oh make no mistake, higher octane isn't bad at all. It's delicious. But, not necessary and a waste of money without a tune.
There are some dyno results on a stock engines that seem to say otherwise. How accurate those are, I can't say. But as I said in an earlier post, for me it's not about that. It's just a safety margin for a forced induction engine.
 

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I’ve tried all grades and now use mostly 88 with 15% ethanol. No better mileage wth 87 or 91 with or without ETOH.
 

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I am using the overpriced gas as a result of Iran war. Just went up again by 40cents from yesterday, I guess the storm in the gulf is giving the oil companies another reason to raise our prices again!
 

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I am using the overpriced gas as a result of Iran war.
Sadly we all are. And it's not just gas. Have you priced motor oil latey? And wait until truck drivers and transportation companies can no longer absorb the cost of $6+ a gallon for diesel. There is only one direction that cost can go.......the consumer, i.e. you and me. It's already started with some companies. It literally effects the cost of everything.
 

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I am using the overpriced gas as a result of Iran war. Just went up again by 40cents from yesterday, I guess the storm in the gulf is giving the oil companies another reason to raise our prices again!
Pass a gas station and turn around and the price has gone up .30 cents that fast. OKeep in mind the Iran conflict and Russian war have no real bearing on the artificial increase in fuel prices. It is merely speculation and profiteering that has increased prices that much. Just wait and the prices will drop incrementally but never get to quite the level they were at the first of the year.
remember all the banana, coffee, sugar, and other bogus shortages and how they raised prices never to go back down to previous lows.
 

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What would be better for the turbo Tacoma...................93 octane gas or 87 ethanol free gas (if you can get it). Or would it not make a difference.
 

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What would be better for the turbo Tacoma...................93 octane gas or 87 ethanol free gas (if you can get it). Or would it not make a difference.
This tread is going and going and going. The gas makes no difference as far as LSPI concern on the title. The real reason ISN'T known to specialists and industry alike. So far oil is to blame and driver's lead foot. The oil escaped at valves or around the rings remaining in the chamber and not evacuated on the down stroke. The oil industry come up with the recommended kind specifically indicated in our Toyota's hand books. Driving practices as well like let the engine warm up and don't floor it at low RPM. Better down-shift and go on with your life. Better gas isn't a bad idea and everyone with his chosen brand and quality. But don't associate a better gas with preventing LSPI.
In my opinion a higher flash point gas, or higher octane, will preignition faster creating the big knock we-re all afraid off. Thanks God we all can still choose the gas and express our opinions freely.
 

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This tread is going and going and going. The gas makes no difference as far as LSPI concern on the title. The real reason ISN'T known to specialists and industry alike. So far oil is to blame and driver's lead foot. The oil escaped at valves or around the rings remaining in the chamber and not evacuated on the down stroke. The oil industry come up with the recommended kind specifically indicated in our Toyota's hand books. Driving practices as well like let the engine warm up and don't floor it at low RPM. Better down-shift and go on with your life. Better gas isn't a bad idea and everyone with his chosen brand and quality. But don't associate a better gas with preventing LSPI.
In my opinion a higher flash point gas, or higher octane, will preignition faster creating the big knock we-re all afraid off. Thanks God we all can still choose the gas and express our opinions freely.
Higher octane certainly can't hurt when it comes to LSPI from most everything I've personally read.

Here's the way I look at it. Some people will pay $60 a jug for Liquid Moly, Ravenol, or some other group 4/5 synthetic oil that likely will not benefit anything. But it's not going to hurt anything either and it's their money to spend. I'm certainly not going to tell them it's a waste of money. But "what gas do you use" threads always bring out the "it's a waste of money" or "it won't make any difference" or "your truck isn't a sports car" or "engineers know better" type posts. Many 87 octane people seem bent making the 91+ octane crowd feel foolish.
 
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This tread is going and going and going. The gas makes no difference as far as LSPI concern on the title. The real reason ISN'T known to specialists and industry alike. So far oil is to blame and driver's lead foot. The oil escaped at valves or around the rings remaining in the chamber and not evacuated on the down stroke. The oil industry come up with the recommended kind specifically indicated in our Toyota's hand books. Driving practices as well like let the engine warm up and don't floor it at low RPM. Better down-shift and go on with your life. Better gas isn't a bad idea and everyone with his chosen brand and quality. But don't associate a better gas with preventing LSPI.
In my opinion a higher flash point gas, or higher octane, will preignition faster creating the big knock we-re all afraid off. Thanks God we all can still choose the gas and express our opinions freely.
With a turbo the most frequent injection of engine oil into the intake is from a damaged turbo seal. In the early 80s GM offered a 3.8 liter turbo in Pontiac models. At low mileage the turbo seals failed and the engine sucked oil enough to foul plugs and create a smoke trail that Navy destroyers envied. Cooldown and idle after heavy use will stall failure.
 

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What would be better for the turbo Tacoma...................93 octane gas or 87 ethanol free gas (if you can get it). Or would it not make a difference.
Ethanol-free fuel is about the worst thing you can do for a modern turbo engine. Ethanol adds additional knock protection and all modern vehicles are designed and tuned for it in mind. In a previous life, I'd review datalogs from 100s of tuned cars and it was pretty easy to spot when someone was using E0 fuel because the car would be knocking like crazy.

Use normal E10 pump fuel, your truck will be happier.
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