That is my next question is it recommended to do them all the way around or just the front springs. If you do the rears also wouldn't that bring back the rake issue.
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Alldogs Offroad Front Springs Installed!
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I ordered 2 front springs last night. Today, I was getting quotes for installation and I was shocked at the prices I was quoted, 4 hours of shop labor plus anywhere for 150-175 for labor. Estimates range from $650-$850. I think that is super ridiculous prices. I have to evaluate if I want to do it myself. I have changed struts and springs in the past on cars. I just don't know if I have the heavy duty tools, jacks, spring compressor (one shop claimed that the rentals spring compressors can't do it) to do the job. Any thoughts on taking this job on?
$650-800 just for the fronts... I would probably just do it yourself... I would think any rental spring compressor would get the job done... It will be time consuming taking everything apart but sometimes there is more satisfaction in doing it yourself.... Especially when you'll be over $1K parts/labor and alignment....
Rental spring compressors work. I used them. The first side took 2-3 hours to disassemble, swap out, and reassemble. The other side took 30 minutes. Have some beer on hand and a full afternoon - you'll be fine.
Luckily the rears look a lot easier to swap out.
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I don't know if it is a problem or not. A few people said the installed on front only. I think someone said he will do the back because he tows with it.
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Fronts only should be fine... That's what Im going to do... Just like putting a level kit in front.... Plus they sell front only's shouldnt be a problem....
Edit* front only install https://www.tacoma4g.com/forum/threads/alldogs-offroad-front-springs-installed.10910/
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Try running for tacos. They had stock when I got mine
I have read a on posts that a couple of people have have installed the JRI shocks which raise the Taco 1 1/2 inches which is basically the same as the Alldogs springs. Those people started experiencing the hum that comes from the front driver side cv joints coming specifically from the needle bearing. The question I have for those who installed the Alldogs springs or those with knowledge and experience is the following: if this is going to be a problem since the truck will be torn,I just installed the "~1.5" taller" TOY-F-M-4GT front coil springs from Alldogs: https://www.alldogsoffroad.com/alld...t-lift-coil-springs-for-4th-gen-toyota-tacoma
My goal was to lift and stiffen the front to handle the additional 930 lbs of permanent weight my 2024 Tacoma has with my Tune M1 truck camper and interior build-out.
I re-used the stock Off-Road Bilstein struts.
$230 shipped, free shipping, and no sales tax in Washington, good deal!
The front ended up about 1.5" inches taller as expected! Which with my payload is 1" taller than stock, which matches my rear being 1" taller too, which is exactly what I wanted!
Handling is MUCH better, the stock Off-Road springs weren't handling the weight well (extra bounce back when going over speed bumps, and a lot of side-slosh when dropping off something one side at a time). The Alldogs springs seem perfect for this weight! It also feels smooth and soft too, doesn't seem too firm or anything. If anything, I think I need stiffer springs in the rear (don't want it taller, but the back seems like it could benefit from being stiffer), but the front is perfect now!
Install notes...
Install took me about 6 hours (at least one hour was wasting time trying to use my cheaper impact wrench). I think I could easily do it in 4 hours next time. Shops quoted me over $800 labor (including alignment) to do it, so even with buying some new tools, I saved at least $200! If I had a full shop lift and shop tools and a nice spring compressor (instead of the rental O'reilly one), I bet I could get it done in 2 hours... kinda ridiculous they're probably quoting it at 4 hours of labor.
- You'll want a good quality impact wrench with 800 ft lbs breakaway. My cheap harbor freight one couldn't break off some of the nuts, I had to buy a Dewalt impact wrench
- Getting the strut aligned was a little tricky, take note of the precise angle the strut is before you remove it.
- For the alignment, you might be able to get it for free at Toyota if you're under 12 months and 12,000 miles with the basic warranty: "Coverage is for 36 months or 36,000 miles, whichever occurs first, with the exception of air conditioning recharge, wheel alignment and wheel balancing, which are covered for 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first", but they do say aftermarket non-OEM parts void the warranty, so idk if they'd honor it. Firestone didn't have the alignment specs for the 2024's yet, so they did it based on the 2023 specs... hoping Toyota releases those specs soon. I bought Firestone's lifetime alignment, so I can bring it back once they have the specs (if you're owning your vehicle for 10 years, the lifetime alignment is so worth it!)
I'm officially happy with my suspension now! I can post some updates once I go off roading (maybe in late April). I wouldn't change a thing about the front suspension (based on my brief two days of driving), as I mentioned the only thing I'd change is potentially the rear suspension, I'd like it to be a little stiffer for all the weight, but I don't want it sitting any taller.
Here's the new springs next to the old springs. Note that they're the same length when uncompressed, but the Alldogs have one extra coil in there, and they're stiffer so the truck actually sits taller.
1) Is it wise to install the ECGS bushing during the Alldogs spring install?
2) Do I need to install the rear springs also?
3) should I install any of those differential drop kits that Icon sells?
I ask because if it is going to be a problem, then might as well do it while the truck is torn apart and be done one time.
Any thoughts on this topic are greatly appreciated?
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