I wanted to wait a couple years to get the new gen. Is now the time or are we close to a mid cycle refresh?

[Will721]

Mabey for the refresh the iso seats everyone seems to hate will be standard on all models. Or the back seat will be replaced with a llama that spits in your coffee. Change isn't necessarily good.

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[trailhunger]

I think waiting for the next gen platforms specifically PHEV with a solid state battery would be worth the wait when it comes ~3+ years from now. The hydrogen prototypes looking killer with 350mi range, but the filling stations don’t exist..

You can put 75k+ miles on a nice gen 4 in the meantime, so no reason to wait IMO

 

[Andrace]

Ford already did this last year to the Maverick. That's why I dropped it from consideration when I was looking at all the mid and small trucks. And yes it did drop the horsepower.

Same for me.
The MT, port injection, and lack of GPF made the Tacoma the winner for me.

I'd consider another Tacoma at the end of this generation if they don't add a GPF, still offer the MT, and add compelling features, or if Toyota begins taking build orders.

 

[TX-BluStreak]

I think waiting for the next gen platforms specifically PHEV with a solid state battery would be worth the wait when it comes ~3+ years from now. The hydrogen prototypes looking killer with 350mi range, but the filling stations don’t exist..

You can put 75k+ miles on a nice gen 4 in the meantime, so no reason to wait IMO

Actually, the hydrogen filling stations do exist but only in CA. Hydrogen power/ technology isn't *new* per say; it's already offered on the Mirai. (You can't buy the Mirai anywhere else in the USA except in CA.) It's ability to combine hydrogen w/ oxygen from the outside air to generate power. I'm afraid when the hydro-Taco comes out in the near future, only those in CA will be lucky enough to drive them.

 

[ohhkk]

Actually, the hydrogen filling stations do exist but only in CA. Hydrogen power isn't *new* per say, it's already offered on the Mirai. (You can't buy Mirai anywhere else in the USA except in CA.) It's ability to combine hydrogen w/ oxygen from the outside air to generate power. I'm afraid when the hydro-Taco comes out in the near future, only those in CA will be lucky enough to drive them.

I think I saw that the hydro powered taco is still very early in development. Would be a shame if I got one now and that came out. But honestly, I would just trade it in.

 

[gpburdell]

I think I saw that the hydro powered taco is still very early in development. Would be a shame if I got one now and that came out. But honestly, I would just trade it in.

In most places there's a lot of infrastructure that'd need to be established before a hydrogen powered vehicle would be viable. Broad availability is likely several years off.

That said, in the long term there's a lot of benefits to hydrogen as fuel - combustion produces just water vapor, local or onsite electrolysis and capture/compression using water and electricity, lower need of transportation infrastructure, relatively quick refueling, lighter vehicle vs a typical BEV, should the hydrogen leak it'll rise and dissipate rather than collect/flow on the ground (gasoline/vapors). Challenges - difficulty identifying a leak, flames are essentially invisible in daylight, lower energy per volume than gasoline, chicken & egg problem with refueling infrastructure and vehicles, public perception of actual danger vs. perceived (Hindenburg), and probably more.

 

[TacoFreak]

I agree with @gpburdell, and I don't think a hydrogen Tacoma will hit the road anytime soon. A plug in hybrid is probably closer, but I expect it to be a good while until it is available too.

 

[Lando]

Quite refreshing being on a forum that embraces discussions and alternatives to gasoline ICE.

I was on a modern muscle car forum and the discussions there were still mired in the Stone Age, i.e. the internal combustion engine that was invented 140 years ago is the only way to go. And V8’s are a must or they’ll never buy a new car again, .

As for me, I would buy a plug in hybrid Tacoma. With an 80km battery range I’d rarely buy gas.

 

[gpburdell]

As for me, I would buy a plug in hybrid Tacoma. With an 80km battery range I’d rarely buy gas.

I think PHEV’s can solve the range anxiety concerns typical ICE drivers have. BEVs are fine, but have limitations- though PHEVs also have their trade offs. Much of it depends on usage pattern.

During the week my driving is short range. We also go to our cabin 3-4 times a month, 100 miles each way. Downside is I park in the driveway so charging cable is more cumbersome than inside the garage.

Contrast to daughter and her husband who often drive 150+ miles a day visiting clients in their different roles.

Others have different patterns, but the usual weekday commute & errands, weekend roadtrip is a great PHEV usage model.

 

[Bluznvice]

What if you died tomorrow. Get it now.

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