SXTH Vs. Banks (Intake & Boost Tubes)

[TacticoolDennis]

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prevents dealers from voiding your warranty just for using a third-party cold air intake. They would have to prove it caused damage to the vehicle.

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[YotaGuy44]

@AmbyBomb

The worst-case scenario with an aftermarket intake is that it voids the warranty on the intake itself. It cannot void the warranty on parts downstream in the system, such as the engine, ECU, exhaust, and other related parts.

On the other hand, a tune can void both the ECU and powertrain warranty.

 

[AmbyBomb]

Of course an intake can. If you put an intake on your truck, and then your engine blows because it runs too lean, or overboosts, or particulates get through, you can bet that Toyota is going to deny that claim.

 

[CAMTuning]

A tune can be worth the investment, especially when paired with the benefits of running an intake. However, tuning is only an option for people who are willing to risk voiding their warranty, since a tune leaves a footprint on the ECU even after being flashed back to stock.

In comparison, adding just an intake will not void the warranty and can easily be removed if needed without leaving any footprint behind.

The method that Cobb uses to flash the ecu leaves no evidence that the ecu was ever flashed. It does not add a flash count and can be returned to 100% stock.

 

[YotaGuy44]

A dealer cannot simply void a warranty just because an intake is installed. Toyota would first need to prove through a causal analysis that the intake was the root cause of the issue or failure.

 

[AmbyBomb]

The same is true of a tune, or any other aftermarket part.

 

[24 TRD OR]

I may get blasted on this, but here goes... Cam's test did not show an appreciable difference in power between the aftermarket CAI's and the stock intake. By appreciable, I mean can I feel or notice it in acceleration or responsiveness. I'm gonna leave sound out of it, because that is separate thing to me. I'm thinking about noticeable gains in power. Unless I am shown unbiased data from an expert (i.e. Cam), I'm under the impression that it may be cool to have all these intakes and such but my user experience with the truck is not going to change in terms of noticed power. Even the downpipe Cam did wasn't a big gain, it just smoothed out the power band. I have a Stillen exhaust, and they claim something north of 20 HP gain. All I can say is it's louder, but I didn't notice anything else. I was dreaming of doing all the intake stuff with my truck until I realized I probably won't even notice the difference other than in my checkbook

 

[24 TRD OR]

I never thought I would be this proud of a "like". Thanks Cam.

 

[Will721]

I may get blasted on this, but here goes... Cam's test did not show an appreciable difference in power between the aftermarket CAI's and the stock intake. By appreciable, I mean can I feel or notice it in acceleration or responsiveness. I'm gonna leave sound out of it, because that is separate thing to me. I'm thinking about noticeable gains in power. Unless I am shown unbiased data from an expert (i.e. Cam), I'm under the impression that it may be cool to have all these intakes and such but my user experience with the truck is not going to change in terms of noticed power. Even the downpipe Cam did wasn't a big gain, it just smoothed out the power band. I have a Stillen exhaust, and they claim something north of 20 HP gain. All I can say is it's louder, but I didn't notice anything else. I was dreaming of doing all the intake stuff with my truck until I realized I probably won't even notice the difference other than in my checkbook

Its a necessary step in most turbocharged applications on the road to horsepower albeit a small one. Other than a tune or larger turbo, there isn't anything out there Ive seen so far that would be physically noticeable from the drivers seat. However, CAM and several other tuning companies showed a not insignificant and measurable gain on just an intake swap. But, they've shown an even larger gain when they are used in combination.

I.e. your not going to notice a 2% increase from the Ol' butt dyno from an intake swap. Nor would you notice that same increase from exhaust, boost tubes, intercooler, ect. But when you add them all together and suddenly there's a 15-20% increase, you'll definitely notice.


As far as sound goes, mabey I'm getting older in my 30s but I've been there and done that. Loud exhausts, mud hogs howling, big v8s just rattling your teeth loose at highway speeds. I've had both cars and trucks which required ear plugs just to tolerate long trips or feankly, just to hear yourself think. Given the option between HP and DB, I'm going HP every time.

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